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# Raven vs tl;dv
> A free, open-source tl;dv alternative with live in-call help and talk ratio - no per-seat pricing and no jump to a \$59 sales tier. Meetings stay local.
tl;dv is a solid sales-coaching notetaker: it records your calls and, on its **Business** tier, scores reps with MEDDIC/BANT/SPIN playbooks. The cost of that is the price curve - Pro is **\$18/user/mo** and Business jumps to **\$59/user/mo** - and it's cloud, per-seat, and after-the-call. Raven helps you **live during** the call, shows **talk ratio** on every session, keeps meetings **local**, and is **free** and **open source**.
## At a glance
| | Raven | tl;dv |
| ------------------------ | ---------------------------------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Live in-call assist | **Yes** - sales modes, suggestions | No - coaching is after the call |
| Talk ratio (You vs Them) | **Yes**, on every session | On paid tiers |
| Where your meetings live | Local SQLite | tl;dv's cloud (EU-hosted) |
| Price | Free, open source (your own keys) | Free (10 AI notes); Pro \$18/user/mo; Business \$59/user/mo (annual) |
| Capture | Local, bot-free (Mac + Windows) | Bot or bot-free modes |
| Open source | Yes | No |
## Price
tl;dv's free plan records unlimited calls but caps you to **10 AI notes** and auto-deletes after 3 months. Real use starts at **Pro \$18/user/mo** (annual; \$29 monthly), and the sales-coaching features - scorecards, objection analysis, playbooks - live in **Business at \$59/user/mo** (annual; \$98 monthly). For a 5-rep team that's roughly \$3,540/year on Business.
Raven is free; you pay your own AI/transcription usage (a few dollars a month), with no per-seat fee and no coaching-tier upsell.
## Where your meetings live
tl;dv stores recordings in its (EU-hosted) cloud. Raven keeps transcripts and notes in a **local SQLite database** on your machine, splits **You** and **Them** on-device, and only sends audio to the providers you chose with your own keys. Open source means the data path is auditable.
## What tl;dv does better (honestly)
* **Sales coaching**: automated MEDDIC/BANT/SPIN scorecards and objection-handling analysis on Business.
* Native **CRM** sync and manager review workflows.
* EU hosting and a polished team experience.
If you're a sales manager coaching a floor of reps and want after-call scorecards, tl;dv's Business tier is purpose-built.
## When Raven wins
* You want **live** help in the call (next question, objection response) - not just an after-call score.
* You want **talk ratio** and sales **modes** without paying for a \$59/seat tier.
* You want meetings **local** and a tool you can **audit**.
* You'd rather pay your AI provider **cents** than per seat.
Raven ships live sales-mode assist and talk ratio today; automated call-scoring checklists are on the roadmap, not shipped yet. If after-call scorecards are your core need, weigh that honestly.
## Switching from tl;dv
1. Export anything you want to keep (tl;dv free auto-deletes after 3 months).
2. [Download Raven](https://useraven.ai/download), add your keys, pick a sales Mode.
3. Run both for a week; cancel tl;dv once Raven covers your daily habit.
Free, open source, Mac + Windows. Bring your own keys.
How Raven helps during the call.
tl;dv pricing verified August 2026 (tldv.io). Vendors change pricing often - confirm before relying on a figure.